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"Brouer's" (Brouwer's?) Theorem

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 7:06 pm
by MindWalk
I read the page on ontological arguments and found something called "Brouer's Theorem" (would I be right to assume that that's supposed to be "Brouwer's Theorem"?) cited. Using "N" for the necessity operator and "P" for the possibility operator, it was supposed to be (p->Np)->(Pp->p). But surely there is some mistake. That is logically equivalent to
Pp->p, which is false when p is possible but neither necessary nor actual. (Try plugging in Pp=T, Np=F, p=F to (p->Np)->(Pp->p), and you will find that the "theorem" is false in that case.) This cannot be a theorem. I am wondering, therefore, where you found it, and where it was referred to as a theorem.

Re: "Brouer's" (Brouwer's?) Theorem

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 4:59 pm
by Metacrock
MindWalk wrote:I read the page on ontological arguments and found something called "Brouer's Theorem" (would I be right to assume that that's supposed to be "Brouwer's Theorem"?) cited. Using "N" for the necessity operator and "P" for the possibility operator, it was supposed to be (p->Np)->(Pp->p). But surely there is some mistake. That is logically equivalent to
Pp->p, which is false when p is possible but neither necessary nor actual. (Try plugging in Pp=T, Np=F, p=F to (p->Np)->(Pp->p), and you will find that the "theorem" is false in that case.) This cannot be a theorem. I am wondering, therefore, where you found it, and where it was referred to as a theorem.
I don't know anything about that.

Re: "Brouer's" (Brouwer's?) Theorem

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 11:12 pm
by met
It's a theorem of s5 iff p --> Np, just to clarify.

Same thing as PNp.--> p.

Aka "Rule of B"

( I never looked at this forum much before.... :) )