John Scottus of Ireland

[Metacrock]

Yeah, that actually sounded like a funny youtube video.

maybe we can make some money doing amusing philosophical parodies of children cartoons. Popeye says "I am what I am" and olive says "isn't that I think therefore I am?"

[mdsimpson92]

maybe we can make some money doing amusing philosophical parodies of children cartoons. Popeye says "I am what I am" and olive says "isn't that I think therefore I am?"

Need to take tips from those "dead philosophers in heaven" guys.

Anywho, so far its pretty standard, I am a little wierded out by the way they use substance. Its throwing me off a bit.

[mdsimpson92]

Actually, one thing I do find unusual is the fact that he is pretty explicit in his idea of universal salvation. Was this before the idea of eternal damnation was solidified in the Church. I know the East orthodox aren't big on the idea of an eternal hell but this guys literally Irish Catholic.

Another thing I noticed was that he views God defined to the extent that we can as "more than being."

[mdsimpson92]

Granted some of his views are a little wierd, he thought that man's perfect original state actually lacked gender.

[Metacrock]

Granted some of his views are a little wierd, he thought that man's perfect original state actually lacked gender.

I really should read him. Not for that but because his place in the history. I read some obscure people last summer in connection with the Being itself thing. John of Sisopolis. there was such a person. Maximus the confessor.

Miles check this out. Here is a most wondrous book!

this is Cosmic Liturgy: the Universe According to Maximus the Confessor.

by Has Urs Von Balthasar

It's amazing. Read the first line of the into:

"When Studenmaiser as a young man recognized the theological task before him was to uproot the pantheism of Hegel and looked around for a model who would be not only enlightening but sufficiently grounded in history to be reliable, he came upon the figure of Scotus Erigena"

http://books.google.com/books?id=Y1l5R- ... %22&f=true

[mdsimpson92]

That was pretty good. Though I thought Hegel was a panentheist. I remember him explicitely rejecting pantheism. Then again there are many interpretations for just about everyone.

[Metacrock]

That was pretty good. Though I thought Hegel was a panentheist. I remember him explicitely rejecting pantheism. Then again there are many interpretations for just about everyone.

People have different interpretations. That Catholic guy saw him as pantheist. Of cousre he would not accept Hegel as Christian and I do. I don't think of Spinoza as pantheist and some atheists have hooted and hollered and called me stupid for saying that I can quote the intro to the past master series where the says that. I think that is by Peter Singer but I could be wrong.

[mdsimpson92]

Ah peter Singer, some of his ideas legitimately creep the hell out of me.

[Metacrock]

Ah peter Singer, some of his ideas legitimately creep the hell out of me.

Yes, they are BaaAAAAAAAaaad. very very BaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAaaaadd!

he wrote this intro before he started screwing sheep. Before that he was highly respected.

[mdsimpson92]

Ah peter Singer, some of his ideas legitimately creep the hell out of me.

Yes, they are BaaAAAAAAAaaad. very very BaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAaaaadd!

he wrote this intro before he started screwing sheep. Before that he was highly respected.

Lol. The sad thing is is that if you take unrestrained classical utilitarianism, his conclusions internally make sense. Kind of disturbing in of itself.