Maybe that's a slight exaggeration but this represents a tectonic shift in the world:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/pope-franc ... -1.3118149
Now the problem is, right wing Catholics will be forced to choose between Catholicism and their economic and political religion - and what will they choose?
Pope Francis may have just saved the world
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Re: Pope Francis may have just saved the world
I think money may go away eventually. It's gotten so abstract, just tap a card on a little screen, already....& people will have more and more trouble believing in it.
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Re: Pope Francis may have just saved the world
I like to think we're headed for a post-scarcity, more or less post-money world, where people primarily pursue their interests and common goals, and people who are still overly interested in money are seen as a bit queer.
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Re: Pope Francis may have just saved the world
money wont go away, they love it too much, and it keeps the masses quite. cash might go away.
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Re: Pope Francis may have just saved the world
Cynic! I want my Star Trek society!Metacrock wrote:money wont go away, they love it too much, and it keeps the masses quite. cash might go away.
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I think what I'm saying is ... if cash goes away, money might (eventually) become too abstract to be a real "thing" ... cuz it's just numbers!Metacrock wrote:money wont go away, they love it too much, and it keeps the masses quite. cash might go away.
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Re: Pope Francis may have just saved the world
Without money, how can the powerful exert power in this post-aristocratic society? No, money isn't going to go away. I think Jesus was right when he said, "You will always have the poor with you."
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Re: Pope Francis may have just saved the world
Generally, in many places in Western societies, "poverty" is already limited. Homelessness - such as there is in such places - generally arises form addictions and other psychological/emotionally-based issues. I don't know if that's true about the US.
In any case, even in a society without money, you'd still have hierarchy and self-worth issues & people valuing themselves and others at different levels. Perhaps it'd be based on "merit" - smarts, looks, creativity, physical prowess or whatever - but all those things are inherited just as easily as wealth, so I'm not sure it'd be any better ...
In any case, even in a society without money, you'd still have hierarchy and self-worth issues & people valuing themselves and others at different levels. Perhaps it'd be based on "merit" - smarts, looks, creativity, physical prowess or whatever - but all those things are inherited just as easily as wealth, so I'm not sure it'd be any better ...
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Re: Pope Francis may have just saved the world
I think the real issue isn't valuing at different levels, but power. The powerful aren't going to accept a society where they lose their power. And money is power. Bottom line.
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Yes, I doubt that money is going away, at least in the foreseeable future. It will get more abstract along with "virtually" everything else. It will probably reach a natural limit where rampant greed has hollowed out society to the point where it begins to implode.KR Wordgazer wrote:I think the real issue isn't valuing at different levels, but power. The powerful aren't going to accept a society where they lose their power. And money is power. Bottom line.
I think the real scarcity is going to be in real concrete things, experiences with solid 3d objects and people, and especially in social bonds that last longer than a few months and really mean something. maybe real wealth will someday be seen in terms of love and mutual commitment. Probably not in my lifetime.