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Re: Shcopenhauer's Criticisms of Chrsitian theology
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by Metacrock » Thu Mar 31, 2011 8:07 pm
mdsimpson92 wrote:tinythinker wrote:mdsimpson92 wrote:You and Tiny did seem to plow through him pretty well. Granted, you both have more knowledge due to more accurate discoveries than what he had available. (as a side not I noticed that aside from Judaism and forms of Protestantism he does seem to be tolerant for his era.)
Absolutely. I am not trying to condemn what he wrote or ignore his argument's deficiencies or lack of access caused by his era. But he could have, for example, looked beyond Lutheran Protestantism. I wonder what he would have made of the Orthodox churches. But he is far more knowledgeable and generous that the new atheists, and given how cut off he would have been from other voices of Christianity, I can't blame him for his critique.
True, which is one of the reasons why I actually respect him greatly. (that and the fact that he inspired some of the greatest thinkers and writers in hisotory) Though you're right, it would be interesting what his opinion on the Orthodox Church if he knew anything about it. Especially since their Nestorian cousin's (from what I read from my textbook) actually probably influenced Mahayana Buddhism. Then again, he was into Indian thought and would probably have been more interested in Therevada instead.
Tolstoy would have had a field day with this though. (Note to self, read "the kingdom of god with within you") But then the only real experience i have had with Tolstoy was "War and Peace" (can't believe I read that monster twice, I must be a masochist or something). But then again I do know that his aeschetics were derived from Shopenhauer.
wow. did you know he original called it "war, what's it good for?"
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by mdsimpson92 » Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:05 pm
I hope that was a reference to the song.
Anyways, I believe he originally was an atheist or agnostic but was dissatisfied with Kant and Schopenhauer and turned to Christianity. Obviously it evolved into his own brand, but Schopenhauer kept a strong influence on him.
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by Metacrock » Sat Apr 02, 2011 5:38 pm
mdsimpson92 wrote:I hope that was a reference to the song.
Anyways, I believe he originally was an atheist or agnostic but was dissatisfied with Kant and Schopenhauer and turned to Christianity. Obviously it evolved into his own brand, but Schopenhauer kept a strong influence on him.
you aer not a Signfeld fan?
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by mdsimpson92 » Sat Apr 02, 2011 11:37 pm
Metacrock wrote:mdsimpson92 wrote:I hope that was a reference to the song.
Anyways, I believe he originally was an atheist or agnostic but was dissatisfied with Kant and Schopenhauer and turned to Christianity. Obviously it evolved into his own brand, but Schopenhauer kept a strong influence on him.
you aer not a Signfeld fan?
Too young to fully appreciate.
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by Metacrock » Mon Apr 04, 2011 11:08 am
mdsimpson92 wrote:Metacrock wrote:mdsimpson92 wrote:I hope that was a reference to the song.
Anyways, I believe he originally was an atheist or agnostic but was dissatisfied with Kant and Schopenhauer and turned to Christianity. Obviously it evolved into his own brand, but Schopenhauer kept a strong influence on him.
you aer not a Signfeld fan?
Too young to fully appreciate.
ah, right. forgot. you talk like a graduate student or a senior.
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by mdsimpson92 » Mon Apr 04, 2011 11:31 am
Metacrock wrote:mdsimpson92 wrote:Metacrock wrote: Anyways, I believe he originally was an atheist or agnostic but was dissatisfied with Kant and Schopenhauer and turned to Christianity. Obviously it evolved into his own brand, but Schopenhauer kept a strong influence on him.
you aer not a Signfeld fan?
Too young to fully appreciate.
ah, right. forgot. you talk like a graduate student or a senior.[/quote]
yep, just a freshman. (thanks for the compliment) You should meet my sister, you'd like her. She's smarter than me, took graduate school at Harvard and is a government contractor for the military. Also, she's way more liberal than me
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by Metacrock » Thu Apr 07, 2011 7:19 am
mdsimpson92 wrote: You should meet my sister, you'd like her. She's smarter than me, took graduate school at Harvard and is a government contractor for the military. Also, she's way more liberal than me
Married?
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by mdsimpson92 » Thu Apr 07, 2011 1:02 pm
Metacrock wrote:mdsimpson92 wrote: You should meet my sister, you'd like her. She's smarter than me, took graduate school at Harvard and is a government contractor for the military. Also, she's way more liberal than me
Married?
LOL
No and hands off she's more than twenty years your junior. I guess my parent we right about creepy people on the internet. (joking)
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by Metacrock » Sat Apr 09, 2011 5:52 pm
mdsimpson92 wrote:Metacrock wrote:mdsimpson92 wrote: You should meet my sister, you'd like her. She's smarter than me, took graduate school at Harvard and is a government contractor for the military. Also, she's way more liberal than me
Married?
LOL
No and hands off she's more than twenty years your junior. I guess my parent we right about creepy people on the internet. (joking)
I figured. Just kidding anyway. You may not understand this now but you will someday I forget I'm old.
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by DT1138 » Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:00 pm
In fairness, have you heard of Lutheran Scholasticism? Between Lutheran Scholasticism and Calvinism, much of Protestant Orthodoxy was stripped of the mystical and experiential.
One victim of the Reformation was mysticism. Both in Catholic and Protestant circles, mysticism came under intense scrutiny and suspicion. It only really flourished in dissenter sects like the Quietists or Quakers. Catholics in particular feared Quietism because it offered a way to achieve a feeling of knowledge of God without the hierarchy's sacramental system, and Protestants disliked it because it de-emphasized the Bible (indeed, the Quakers hold experience above the Bible in authority).