Basis of Theology - Biblical? Philosophical? Or. . ?

[Gwarlroge]

Well, at this point, Runamokmonk needs to respond, but if he doesn't, I understand.

...Or we could dispute the atonement. I'm not a scholar on the issue.

I would say that a theology has to base itself in what we know of God--mainly from Scripture, but also from nature (beauty, goodness, etc.) and knowing God himself. Philosophy can establish that God exists, or that he is eternal, etc. -- But that God is triune, that he became a man and died for our sins and rose again, is something we couldn't guess or just know.

[Metacrock]

Well, at this point, Runamokmonk needs to respond, but if he doesn't, I understand.

...Or we could dispute the atonement. I'm not a scholar on the issue.

I would say that a theology has to base itself in what we know of God--mainly from Scripture, but also from nature (beauty, goodness, etc.) and knowing God himself. Philosophy can establish that God exists, or that he is eternal, etc. -- But that God is triune, that he became a man and died for our sins and rose again, is something we couldn't guess or just know.

There are arguments that have been made that trinity can be deduced from logic, but I don't know if anyone would ever think of it without revelation.

[Gwarlroge]

Wait a minute. I didn't know you actually agreed that Christ paid the penalty for our sins. Maybe we don't disagree as much as I thought?

[runamokmonk]

I appreciate what KR Wordgazer said. She seemed to articulate it pretty well. I wish I could respond more but I'm not able to. I don't relate to God very well, but I believe God did some sort of weird jujitsu move and made himself relational to me and I have been thankful ever since.

[Metacrock]

Wait a minute. I didn't know you actually agreed that Christ paid the penalty for our sins. Maybe we don't disagree as much as I thought?

Of course I do. It was the implication of the statement of solidarity. that's what I mean when I say accepting the solidarity creates the ground of forgiveness. you can't be forgiven unless you accept the atonement, right? If the statement of solidarity consists of making atonement then solidarity = forgiveness.

[Metacrock]

I appreciate what KR Wordgazer said. She seemed to articulate it pretty well. I wish I could respond more but I'm not able to. I don't relate to God very well, but I believe God did some sort of weird jujitsu move and made himself relational to me and I have been thankful ever since.

ahahaahahah divine jujitsu I love it!

Wordgrazer is cool. Unfortunately she's married. Too young for me anyway.

[KR Wordgazer]

Awww. I'm flattered, Metacrock.

I'm very happily married, but if I ever became a widow and you were still around, who knows? I refuse to live in Texas, though.

[tinythinker]

Awww. I'm flattered, Metacrock.

I'm very happily married, but if I ever became a widow and you were still around, who knows? I refuse to live in Texas, though.

So does my wife, although technically neither of us have had job offers there.

[Metacrock]

Awww. I'm flattered, Metacrock.

I'm very happily married, but if I ever became a widow and you were still around, who knows? I refuse to live in Texas, though.

O well, the deals off.

[Metacrock]

Awww. I'm flattered, Metacrock.

I'm very happily married, but if I ever became a widow and you were still around, who knows? I refuse to live in Texas, though.

So does my wife, although technically neither of us have had job offers there.

you would actually live here if you had to?